Monday, July 03, 2006

Go (Mid)West, Young Man

The most popular Blazer pasttime for the rest of the off-season will certainly be playing "Backseat GM" on the trade front. I normally don't do much of that stuff because my fingers get tired clicking back and forth on the trade checkers, and frankly if we come up with it chances are actually GMs thought of it and discarded it months ago. Either that or it's too complicated to ever work in reality. I love reading about those potential six-team, twenty-two player deals that have to be consummated on a Tuesday before a full moon provided the sixteenth player signs a contract at roughly half his market value and then agrees to be traded to Guam.

However, as the off-season action heats up I can't help but consider a couple of "what ifs", both involving midwestern teams.

The first is wholly speculative and probably wouldn't work, but for several reasons I would love to see Chicago sign Ben Wallace and then find a way to fit Zach under the cap too. First of all I love it from their perspective. Wallace is the one guy in the league who could erase nearly all of Zach's shortcomings. Zach, in turn, would find ample opportunity to employ his inside-outside scoring prowess alongside Big Ben. It would be a match made in heaven, and it just seems like the basketball gods should make that happen. With all of their talent at the small positions, I think the Bulls could reasonably expect to be a playoff team for a long time. Our piece of candy in this, besides clearing cap space so we could be the next Chicago, would be that pick they're fixing to swap with the Knicks next year. It would also eliminate one of the major salary teams from the Przybilla sweepstakes. The problem is we wouldn't want to take any long-term salaries in return. Taking Tyson Chandler back wouldn't solve our problem. And the only way I could get it to work with the trade checker was for them to give us Chandler and Nocioni, which I don't think they'd do. (But they should. If we thought Chandler were an answer at center this would be a good deal for us.) If anyone could figure out a way this would work without having Chicago give up half its team and without us going back into cap hell for players worse than Zach, let me know.

Check out Chicago's potential lineup:

Kirk Hinrich
Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
Zach Randolph
Ben Wallace

With Deng, Nocioni, Chandler, and Duhon coming off the bench (unless one of them were traded to us).

On a more realistic front it didn't escape notice that Milwaukee traded away its main point guard in T.J. Ford for Charlie Villaneuva this week and also that the Bucks and Blazers were rumored to be hot and heavy in trade talks just before the draft. This might be a possible destination for Blake as a throw-in to a deal. There are several Milwaukee players of interest, including Dan Gadzuric, Jamaal Magloire and Joe Smith (both for salary cap purposes if nothing else), and maybe even Villanueva himself. All of those players would be back-ups to a frontcourt tandem of Bogut and Randolph. If we're just going for cap relief and a little size, Randolph, Miles, and Blake for Magloire, Smith, and Gadzuric does work under cap rules. You can throw in Villanueva for Gadzuric if you want more talent, though you'd have to do it after August 30th because Villanueva was recently traded. There are also combos that work with just Zach and a couple of those players. This might be a hot place to keep your attention.

--Dave (


Anonymous fatty said...

dave i don't see the bulls
doing it but the bucks yes
i definately see a fit like
a j.cochran statement in a
court trail,pricthard is
basically telling the fans
that stuck around, that nash
is a terrible talent evalulator
like damon said,and pricthard
will turn this around in a
ny minute later dave !!!!!!

2:14 PM  
Blogger ignacio said...

i've always liked gadzuric as a rebounder and tough guy. and remember the movie "mars needs women"? well, the blazers need rebounding.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

I have liked Gadzuric for a while now too. He's 28 now, which means he's no longer a "potential" guy, but he wouldn't be a bad pickup. The only downside is that he has a long contract, but it's less than Miles' per year and you've gotta pay someone at some point.


5:08 PM  
Anonymous Lance Uppercut said...

ESPN is reporting that B.Wallace has agreed to terms with Chicago. That's great news for Blazer fans, except Fatty, who hates Pryzbilla : )

5:49 PM  
Blogger ignacio said...

lance: assuming wallace to chicago means joel stays here, great!

i really had prepared myself (as you know) for his exit.

6:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great point on Zach working well for Chicago if they landed Wallace. ESPN is saying that they reached an agreement to sign Wallace today. I have no idea how or who, but could see a possible multi-team deal put together to make a trade happen that sends Zach to ChiTown, if not I don't think Chicago is possible for us or them... but do think Milwaukie seems viable.

6:58 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

Well, it does eliminate one of the possible money contenders, but you still have the lure of a run at a championship in San Antonio (or maybe now Detroit) or a chance with an up-and-coming team in Cleveland. I have marginally more faith that some feeling of loyalty might hold out over those than I did that it would hold out over money, but it's still pretty dicey at this point. Perhaps if we agree to a wink-wink short term deal he might be swayed. But he's also got to know that with a one-year Blazer contract if we do get the #1 pick next season his value to us will plummet. In fact Aldridge developing may also eat into his worth to us. (I imagine we'll value him anyway, but you never know how things might change.)

I think it's safe to say this is a good sign for us. Now if only they could find a way to pull the trigger on that Zach thing. If it were available, what would you think of Chandler, Nocioni, and the pick for Zach? Would you eat Chandler's contract and hope both his defense and the pick would be good? Nocioni is on the last year of his contract I believe and is unlikely to be re-signed with Thomas now on board.


7:01 PM  
Anonymous fatty said...

#1 i don't hate pryzbilla
i just feel like dave said
his value diminishes if we
get a top 3 pick next year
this team ain't going to
win this year anyway so let
him go to s.a.spurs and we'll
pick up a bum for 1 year and
roll the dice on 5/22/07
and see what happens !!!!!

1:28 PM  
Anonymous School Marm said...

Fatty, I must say your compositions are becoming much more coherent. If you could sprinkle a little punctuation throughout the body of your comments, you would be well on your way to literary excellence. It does an English teacher's heart proud to see such improvement. By the way, you have a very charming way of expressing your true feelings through your writing.

4:24 PM  
Blogger ignacio said...

joel signs with portland today july 4th. good news.

6:32 PM  
Anonymous TP43 said...

I had the Zach to Chicago thing rattling around in the old noodle as well but couldn't figure out how to make it work / decide what we would want back in return. Zach would seem to be an ideal fit for Chicago and them giving us their pick just might be the ticket to get this thing done. Chandler makes something approaching 10mil a year over the course of his contract doesn't he? I love Joel, L-train, and Chandler as a three man rotation at the 4-5 but that makes us an extremely guard oriented offense and we would have to get a strong offensive 3 to make it work. It's intriguing; does anybody know what Luol Deng is like? I haven't seen much of him but my general impression is that he's an athletic - defensive oriented 3. Anybody?

12:59 PM  

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